Comments on: “The Ron Paul cult” http://politicalpartypoop.com/2007/11/01/%e2%80%9cthe-ron-paul-cult/ Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:59:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Jack Sanderson http://politicalpartypoop.com/2007/11/01/%e2%80%9cthe-ron-paul-cult/#comment-36496 Jack Sanderson Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:33:38 +0000 http://politicalpartypoop.com/2007/11/01/%e2%80%9cthe-ron-paul-cult/#comment-36496 It is less sinister than that: Ron Paul calls for the destruction of a pile of new government agencies that, quite frankly, the Constitution never called for. People across a wide political spectrum agree with that and, quite frankly, I am shocked that Giuliani is not at least calling for the closing of at least one agency. So it is no surprise that a group that is not happy with our current government would include a white nationalist group as well as any number of left wing groups as well. RP supporters would include Naderites and White Nationalists. I say "new agencies" as in the past 100 years. Lots of people believe that the country did well enough in the first 125 years not to have all this progressive new stuff. Take for instance this: in 1995, we got the creation of a federal "Office on Violence Against Women" at the DOJ. That coincidentally coincided with a change in the feminist movement and the election of a certain first lady. Since when did the Constitution ever say that Congress had an enumerated power over domestic violence, rape and other issues that were States Rights issues before 1995? The OVW now gets $430M per year funding, up $40M from last year because they want to create a huge stalker database to chronicle every man who might send a woman flowers, not knowing that she doesn't like him. Politics causes the creation of a new huge agency almost every new president. RP wants to do away with tons of this. It is less sinister than that:

Ron Paul calls for the destruction of a pile of new government agencies that, quite frankly, the Constitution never called for.

People across a wide political spectrum agree with that and, quite frankly, I am shocked that Giuliani is not at least calling for the closing of at least one agency.

So it is no surprise that a group that is not happy with our current government would include a white nationalist group as well as any number of left wing groups as well.

RP supporters would include Naderites and White Nationalists.

I say “new agencies” as in the past 100 years.

Lots of people believe that the country did well enough in the first 125 years not to have all this progressive new stuff.

Take for instance this: in 1995, we got the creation of a federal “Office on Violence Against Women” at the DOJ.

That coincidentally coincided with a change in the feminist movement and the election of a certain first lady.

Since when did the Constitution ever say that Congress had an enumerated power over domestic violence, rape and other issues that were States Rights issues before 1995?

The OVW now gets $430M per year funding, up $40M from last year because they want to create a huge stalker database to chronicle every man who might send a woman flowers, not knowing that she doesn’t like him.

Politics causes the creation of a new huge agency almost every new president.

RP wants to do away with tons of this.

]]> By: Snoop http://politicalpartypoop.com/2007/11/01/%e2%80%9cthe-ron-paul-cult/#comment-36505 Snoop Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:52:41 +0000 http://politicalpartypoop.com/2007/11/01/%e2%80%9cthe-ron-paul-cult/#comment-36505 Mr. Sanderson I appreciate your comments, I understand why Ron Paul speaks to a number of people on many topics particularly those dealing with the reduction of government. Hell I took on of those internet tests and Ron Paul was my number 3 choice close behind McCain and Fred Thompson. However, I’m a hard core realist. Let’s face it, once the presidential race begins the electability equation factor emerges. Ron Paul as nice of a guy he might be will never be able to round up enough support amongst average Americans to be a viable candidate. Having said that, these candidates, including Ron Paul himself, know damm well he has not shot at the Republican nomination much less winning a national election. So what does candidates like Ron Paul do, raise a few dollars, try to become relevant, speak out on issues that are important to him and hope to get a seat at the negotiation table once the election cycle is over. It’s the same thing with Obama, he never had a chance at the nomination, but he is campaigning for relevancy, to be a Democrat player down the road. Now all of this stuff Paul is talking about is courtesy of his lower tier status as a candidate. If Ron Paul were the Republican front runner and was more visible, he would not be ranting about the things his followers are boasting about. He would have to temper his comments so he would not come across as a kook! When Dennis Kucinich said during the debate that he saw a UFO, do you think dude would have made that idiot comment if her were a front running candidate of course not. You have to be able to appeal to the mainstream of society; you have to come across as presidential, as a leader, someone the country can get behind. Ron Paul followers refuse to accept the fact that when you see him the first thing you think of is Barney Fife, Paul himself if uncomfortable with all of the attention. This is a superficial society, if Ron Paul looked like Mitt Romney or was this dapper looking well dressed hip dude and had a deep commanding voice, he would be the front runner. Is it fair, maybe not, but that is the reality we live in. Mr. Sanderson I appreciate your comments, I understand why Ron Paul speaks to a number of people on many topics particularly those dealing with the reduction of government.
Hell I took on of those internet tests and Ron Paul was my number 3 choice close behind McCain and Fred Thompson.
However, I’m a hard core realist. Let’s face it, once the presidential race begins the electability equation factor emerges.
Ron Paul as nice of a guy he might be will never be able to round up enough support amongst average Americans to be a viable candidate. Having said that, these candidates, including Ron Paul himself, know damm well he has not shot at the Republican nomination much less winning a national election. So what does candidates like Ron Paul do, raise a few dollars, try to become relevant, speak out on issues that are important to him and hope to get a seat at the negotiation table once the election cycle is over.
It’s the same thing with Obama, he never had a chance at the nomination, but he is campaigning for relevancy, to be a Democrat player down the road.

Now all of this stuff Paul is talking about is courtesy of his lower tier status as a candidate. If Ron Paul were the Republican front runner and was more visible, he would not be ranting about the things his followers are boasting about. He would have to temper his comments so he would not come across as a kook!

When Dennis Kucinich said during the debate that he saw a UFO, do you think dude would have made that idiot comment if her were a front running candidate of course not.
You have to be able to appeal to the mainstream of society; you have to come across as presidential, as a leader, someone the country can get behind.

Ron Paul followers refuse to accept the fact that when you see him the first thing you think of is Barney Fife, Paul himself if uncomfortable with all of the attention.
This is a superficial society, if Ron Paul looked like Mitt Romney or was this dapper looking well dressed hip dude and had a deep commanding voice, he would be the front runner.
Is it fair, maybe not, but that is the reality we live in.

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