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From Flopping Aces

FactCheck.org did their homework on the debate last night and the top tier candidates answers.  They found a few nuggets:

• Romney claimed New York called itself a “sanctuary city” for illegal aliens. It didn’t.
• Giuliani denied New York actually was a “sanctuary city.” But the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service has classified it as such, based on immigrant-friendly policies Giuliani still defends.
• Huckabee claimed he would “abolish the IRS.” He failed to mention that he’d replace it with another big tax bureaucracy.
• Huckabee said he had proposed to make children of illegal aliens eligible for Arkansas scholarships if they “had been in our schools their entire school life.” Actually, the proposal required only three years in Arkansas schools.
• Giuliani was correct on two points: While he was mayor, New York snowfall went down and the Yankees won four World Series titles. He was joking, but his gag should remind citizens that it’s a mistake in logic to give mayors, or governors or presidents, all credit or blame for what happens just because they’re in office at the time.
• Romney, claiming to be a “true suffering” fan of the Red Sox, said the team waited 87 years to win a World Series. They actually waited 86.

Notice a name missing from that list?

Not only did Fred come off as the most Presidential and the truest conservative, he also got his facts right.

Here is the longer version of the new Fred video that was played at the debate….good stuff:

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By Rush Limbaugh via Conservative Grapevine

RUSH: It was fascinating to me, as I said, to watch this because it hit me upside the head — even though, as I say, I instinctively knew this — that all of the top-tier candidates, because of these questions… See, there’s always a silver lining in everything. There’s always an upside. Some of you might not think of this as an upside or a silver lining, but the genuine moderate as opposed to conservative aspects of three of the top-tier, four of the top-tier candidates were on full-fledged display last night. There was one candidate who did not display any moderateness or liberalism or have any of his past forays into those areas displayed, and that candidate was Fred Thompson. Now, this is not an endorsement. You know, I don’t endorse during primaries. I just point out: These are things I noticed, and I’ve told you during the course of this one campaign year that one of the things that’s bothering me, is I’m a Reagan conservative, and I believe in conservatism. It’s in my soul and it’s in my heart, and I know it is the best way for us to manage our affairs to ensure the most prosperity for the most, to continue our freedom, to protect our country.Conservatism sees people and sees potential. Liberalism looks at people and sees victims. Liberalism looks at people and sees incompetence, and, “We gotta help ‘em out and keep ‘em forever dependent so we’ll always have power.” Conservatives don’t want to use the government to empower themselves. They want to get government out of the way to empower other people. So, to me it matters, and we have a campaign now where most of the candidates are not genuine conservatives. They may be saying they are, but in their past they have done some things that are not conservative in any way, shape, manner, or form — and I think a lot of those things are being overlooked even by friends of mine in the conservative media because the obsession is Hillary. “Well, we gotta have somebody who can beat Hillary, and we can’t have the perfect candidate,” and so we gotta make the choice here based on who’s best equipped to win and beat Hillary. I understand that, and whoever the nominee is, I’m going to support them. So don’t misunderstand here. But I don’t like seeing “conservatism” being watered down as the way it’s defined. I don’t want people who are not conservative being said to be representatives of the “new conservatism.” There is no “new” conservatism. There is conservatism, and you either are or you aren’t.

You can be 80%, but it depends on what the other 20% are, and I’m just telling you that last night, it was Huckabee and Rudy and Mitt Romney, because of these questions, who were all faced with the reality — and everybody watching saw it — that they’ve got some governance in their pasts that is not conservative, and this is something that just hit me. While everybody is talking about Fred Thompson, “He’s too lazy. He’s too lackadaisical. He doesn’t seem to have whole lot of energy.” Fine and dandy. I’m not going to argue with people about your perceptions of attitudes and so forth. I will say this. I don’t think anybody would get into this mess running for the presidency, the media and all of these things. You can’t imagine what these people go through. You wouldn’t want to go through it, and I can’t imagine somebody put themselves through it if they really don’t want it.

You know, one of the arguments about Fred Thompson is, “Well, I can’t see the fire in his belly.” Well, he’s got a different personality than the others. We’ll just have to see how all this shakes out. But those are the high points that I took. Now, some of the other questions: We’ve got audio sound bites of all this coming up after the next break. The abortion questioner, the YouTube question last night was a declared Edwards supporter, and also a slobbering Anderson Cooper fan. The Log Cabin Republican questioner (that was two questions on homosexuality last night), the Log Cabin Republican questioner is a declared supporter of Obama! We even had a question about the lead content of toys coming from the ChiComs. None of these questions would have ever been asked of the Democrats, but the toy questioner is a prominent union activist for the Edwards-endorsing United Steelworkers. It was a series of plants, once again. Whether CNN knew it or not, that’s what it was.

This was amusing, found on Little Green Footballs.

Sorry folks but this won’t work. People who are Neo-Nazi’s and devout racist fucks have a mental disorder, you can remove all of the symbolic shit you want but you still have the hatred shit bubbling in the head and the heart.

Hmm. Neo-Nazis toning down the rhetoric and getting rid of hate symbols, to appear more palatable to the masses.

Anti-Semitic church drops Nazi symbols.

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - An anti-Semitic church formed by white supremacists has abandoned its neo-Nazi imagery, such as swastikas, to make its message more palatable, a change that a leading Jewish group called an attempt to “sanitize hatred.”The group banned the use of Nazi uniforms, red arm bands and similar regalia because they were an instant turnoff to people who might otherwise be open to the church’s teachings, including the belief that white Anglo-Saxons — not Jews — are God’s chosen people in the Bible.“We don’t like the swastikas. We don’t like the negativity,” said Jonathan Williams, the leading pastor of the United Church of YHWH. “The majority of people see all that as pure evil.”

Williams was formerly involved with Aryan Nations, which was once the best-known neo-Nazi organization in the United States. It was led by Richard Butler, who was acquitted in 1989 on charges of attempting to create a new Aryan country through assassinations, robberies, guerrilla bands and a race war. In 2000, the group had to give up its compound in Hayden, Idaho, after Butler lost a $6.3 million judgment for an attack on a mother and son. After Butler died in 2004, followers relocated to Talladega in east Alabama, and earlier this year renamed themselves the United Church of YHWH. The initials are a reference to Yahweh, the Hebrew word for God.

Bill Nigut, the regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, said the group was attempting to “sanitize hatred” by appearing to be more mainstream. “We find it very disturbing. They can begin a conversation now with people they could not have before,” he said. “They can get in the door.”

UPDATE: MALKIN HAS MORE LINKS BELOW

The retired general who asked about gays and lesbians serving in the military at the CNN/YouTube Republican debate on Wednesday is a co-chairman of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s National Military Veterans group.Retired Brig. Gen. Keith H. Kerr was named a co-chair of the group this month, according to a campaign press release.

He was also active in John F. Kerry’s 2004 campaign for president.

Kerr asked candidates “why you think that American men and women in uniform are not professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians.”

Ok first I did not watch the debate; I have said often that I NEVER watch debates because they are pointless.
You can put me on stage and I can play the role of any presidential candidate and answer a question exactly as they would, well maybe not Hillary because she is such a fucken liar politician she always talks out of her ass.

Now as for this “Clinton Plant” I am finally beginning to see the “inevitability” wall starting to crumble with Mrs. Bill and I don’t blame her so much as I do the people who supposedly support her. She is the ultimate control freak but she can’t keep a tight reign on her idiot supporters who do this stupid shit.
The people in her campaign apparently are not as smart as we all once believed. Her campaign is a public relations disaster and if I were running her campaign I would put my foot up some folks asses.

This question was so unnecessary, the military policy on gays like it or not is working.
I’m trying to understand just what point he was trying to make. Now in the next debate Hillary must now address another issue that was not on her radar and do PR damage control because the focus will again be on the “plant” and not the substance of the question.

What is fascinating to me was a few people trolling the net was able to uncover all these plants within an hour or two, but the Clinton News Network with its world wide resources, liberal fact geeks, editors, reporters either didn’t find that out or didn’t think it was relevant. I mean does CNN think that the average citizen is a retarded dolt? They must think that way.

Now that CNN’s credibility has been pissed on again and we now have this new slate of Democratic flunkies and activists asking questions of Republicans, the new Democrat tactic now seems to be “who gives a shit, they were valid questions, so it really doesn’t matter who asked them.” This is what one dude said on a talk show this morning as I was driving to work. Then what is this “undecided voter” bullshit, why hide your identity?

Let’s use some fucken common sense here if we are not suppose to give a shit about who asked the questions then why didn’t the homo general ask about the economy, lead in toys, or global warming, or the mom with her kids ask about gays in the military?
Because it was convenient for the Democrats to have this decorated fraud ask the question, who is saying something is just as important, if not more important than what is actually being said.

Notice all of the deception deceit, fraud, flip flopping on the Democrat side, reason number 4,210,763 I thank God I’m not a Democrat.

Update: New - Muslim questioner was a former CAIR intern.

Update: CNN on the defensive. CNN’s Glenn Beck comments here.

Update: The foliage keeps blooming…a questioner working with Dick Durbin’s staff and a Richardson supporter masquerading as a Paulbot… and a former Jane Harman intern…and the “Blind Black Republican satirist” (a milder species, but still, all in the same family).

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From Hot Air: Video: The disappearing Hillary plant; Update: Does it matter who the questions come from?
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From Sweetness & Light: The Clinton News Network Does It Again

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Madonna has outraged animal rights groups by dyeing her pet sheep different colours for a photo shoot.The ‘Hung Up’ singer and her director husband Guy Ritchie have been branded “irresponsible” after colouring their sheep blue, pink, yellow and green for a Vogue spread at their English country estate, in Wiltshire.

A spokesman for the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA) said: “Why is it necessary and what are they trying to prove? It is an irresponsible publicity stunt.”

The couple say the shoot - which will feature in new book ‘Vogue Living: House, Gardens, People’ - was staged in homage to legendary photographer Cecil Beaton. The noted portrait photographer lived on the £9 million Ashcombe Estate during the 30s and 40s.

Madonna, 49, and Guy, 39, also insisted the dye used was temporary and did not harm the animals.

However, the RSPCA do not accept their reasoning, and are adamant the stunt could lead to dangerous copycat incidents.

The source added: “We would really question the need to do it. It really does send out the wrong message about how to use animals.

“Animals used in this sort of publicity stunt can lead to copycats. Even if the dye used in this instance is safe for the animals, other people might copy it with a dye that isn’t safe.”

‘Vogue Living: House, Gardens, People’ profiles 36 homes and gardens of the rich and famous.

Ok if you don’t want to read me rant about race shit again, click to another website.
I’m going to start in 5… 4… 3… 2… 1… Ok you have been warned!

I’m listening to Rush and he is talking about the You Tube debate and he talks about this one question from some fucken redneck with a Confederate Flag hanging up in his room
he asks “what does this flag mean to you?” I know what it means to be Jethro!

Frankly folks there should never, ever be another You Tube debate, because it’s a damm joke. Our great Democracy is being tarnished by the new age techno geek marvel site You Tube where the people flesh peddling their videos on this site are better noted for videos of skanks gyrating in their underwear, failed musicians begging for people to listen to their sorry ass music, failed comedians searching for their big opportunity, Steven Spielberg wannabees spending countless hours creating claymation porn, or white supremist begging people hate minorities and Jews from their basements.

Now because of CNN and this idiot debate a bunch of degenerate freaks more interested in getting their 15 minutes of fame are now given a platform to ask a potential world leader what a fucken racist flag means to them. Will someone please explain to me why asking what a racist flag means to them was relevant to a “Republican” debate?
Will this question be asked to the racist liberal Democrats who love exploiting race in everything they do?
Seriously, are there still some of you who don’t think there is a liberal media bias?

The second offensive question was by some Negro where he basically asks why Negro’s don’t vote Republican. Who gives a shit?!
Let me tell you something, I have gotten to the point where I don’t give a fuck if a Negro ever votes Republican. Who gives a shit? Any Negro who is still not smart enough to figure out that voting for a Democrat simply because they are NOT Republican even though the Republican candidates interest may in some cases be better for you in the long run deserves what they get.
If Negros still want to get voting instructions from race hustlers and fake as Negro talk show pundits, I’m like fuck it, stay poor, stay stupid, uneducated, continue to allow Democrats to take your vote for granted and call you Buckwheat to your face for good measure.

The day Republican candidates for president start making Hip Hop campaign commercials, or show up in majority black districts drinking 40’s on the corner with jobless Negros, or start showing up in black churches dancing in the aisles to a raucous gospel tune shouting “praise the lawd.” Or they start doing what John Kerry did and flash the “black power salute” to a Negro crowd, it will be then that I will know the Republican Party is in real trouble.
The idea is to ask for an individuals vote, 1 man, 1 woman 1 vote.
I find it offensive when a candidate makes a blanket statement addressing potential Negro voters.

I’m a simple guy, cut my damm taxes, get the governments hands out of my fucken pocket, stop wasting taxpayer money, protect our borders, simplify and reduce government, keep our military strong, fix our nations infrastructure and maintain it, stop funding anti-American organizations with my tax dollars, stop giving federal handouts to corporations.
What the hell does that have to do with my skin color? Oh increasing welfare benefits, thats a black thang huh? Keeping Imus off the radio, or stopping racists from hanging nooses from trees, yup the president should handle that shit too, right?

I’m sorry folks but I don’t want a bunch of wacko’s asking stupid clichéd questions and watching candidates look at each other like deer’s caught in the headlights.

If I could wave a magic wand my solution would be at the beginning of each political campaign season there would be the obligatory 30 relevant questions that would be asked to BOTH Democrats and Republicans. Have one (1) debate on each of the networks Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN. Those 30 or so questions MUST be asked at the beginning of each debate. A few may be added to account for real time news and events.

This debate stupidity must be stopped; we can’t allow the inmates to run the asylum.
If we don’t pull the plug on this crazy shit the presidential election process is in serious trouble.

This from Poli Pundit via Conservative Grapevine

More lies of the open border fanatics exposed,

Would-be immigrants may be staying home in significant numbers, a Mexican government survey says, a trend that analysts on Tuesday attributed to a crackdown on illegal border crossers, raids at employment sites and a slowing U.S. economy, particularly in the construction industry.The coyotes [immigrant smugglers] are too expensive, the crossing is more dangerous than ever and the hatred is scary,” said Mr. Reyes, who sent money to his parents in Chihuahua City to start a ranch. “The gringos will have a hard time without our cheap labor. I think they will see through their own hypocrisy.”
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Santiago Crespo, 28, stopped in Santa Teresa, N.M., on Tuesday while on his way to Valle de Santiago, Guanajuato, in central Mexico.

He and his three buddies, all traveling from Denver, where they worked picking crops, planned to drive 14 hours straight to their hometown.

None planned on returning to the U.S. next year.

“The employers are asking for Social Security numbers, proof of ID, stuff they know we don’t have,” Mr. Crespo said. “I could get some fake papers, but when you don’t feel welcome anymore, why return to a place where they close the door on you?”

I love being called “gringo” by an angry, poor, stupid illegal immigrant! That makes my day, so thank you sir!

Remember, we can’t deport 12 million!

– The Ace

10% penalty applied if buyers don’t get tickets from ‘gay’ site

Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air have announced a new program that will charge heterosexuals 10 percent extra for their air travel to specific locations during the Christmas season.

The company actually offers the 10 percent as a discount but only if the purchaser obtains the ticket through a “gay” page of the company’s website, a location not typically patronized by families seeking travel arrangements, according to an Idaho activist who was distressed by the offering.

Bryan Fischer, of the Idaho Values Alliance, told WND the company boasts of its “nondiscrimination” policies, but, “here they are blatantly discriminating against heterosexuals in their pricing structure.”

Word of the discount came through an airline employee, who needed to remain anonymous because of concerns over retaliation. The employee reported the company had sent e-mails out announcing the “very soft launch” of the new promotion.

“They are giving preferences to male passengers who want to wear dresses on the planes, and giving them preference over married couples,” Fischer said, noting families typically buy more tickets than individuals or pairs traveling together.

“It just doesn’t seem like it’s smart business for them to stick their thumb in the eye of the main passengers,” he told WND.

He said he had called the company’s reservations number and the clerk was unaware of the program and it didn’t come up on the general list of discounts available to reservations agents, but he did verify that the “gay” page discount was valid – but only by going through the “gay” page.

“The only way you could take advantage of this is to self-identify as a homosexual, lesbian, bisexual or transgender. Otherwise you’re out of luck,” Fischer told WND.

The actual program, he noted, doesn’t demand a person be homosexual, but is set up so that only those deliberately looking for “gay” travel options would find it.

A spokeswoman for the airline, Amanda Bielawski, returned WND’s call requesting a comment, but didn’t answer questions, noting that she didn’t know about the program. Then she quizzed WND on who had given the news organization information on the program.

The airline also at some point after WND inquired changed the headline on the page from “Gay Travel” to “New York City on Sale” but it still appeared to be available only through a direct “gay travel” web page, and couldn’t be located through the airline’s general reservations web site. It wasn’t listed on the page that was supposed to reference “promo/all_deals”. The promotion appeared only under a page citing “gaytravel/LGBT-NYC-Sale.”

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By Fred Thompson • SPECIAL TO THE REGISTER

I believe there are millions of Americans who know our security and prosperity are at risk if we don’t address the challenges of our time - the global threat of terrorism; taxes and spending that will bankrupt future generations; and a government that can’t get the most basic responsibilities right for its citizens.

In 1994 when I first ran for the Senate, I advocated the same common-sense conservative positions I hold today. They are based upon what I believe to be sound conservative First Principles, reflecting the nature of man and the wisdom of the ages. It is a basic recognition that our rights come from God and not from government. Essentially, it’s about freedom. A government big enough to do everything for us is powerful enough to do anything to us.

These principles lead me to believe in lower taxes, free markets, private property and fair competition. These principles made America great, and we should rededicate ourselves to them, not abandon them.

When we look to Washington, we see a bureaucratized government increasingly unable or unwilling to carry out basic governmental functions, including securing our borders against illegal immigration and enforcing our laws. A nation that can’t protect its border will no longer be a sovereign nation. We see a Congress more politicized and divided than ever and disconnected from the American people. Is this the government that some would have play an even greater role in running our lives? We must do better.

Recently, I talked to a young Marine at Walter Reed Hospital. He had lost both legs in Iraq but was looking to the future. I asked him what he planned to do, and he said he wanted to work with a nonprofit organization that was doing a lot to help people. Then he looked at me and said, “I just thought it was time I gave something back.”

That young man, who has given so much for America and yet still asks to give more, is typical of the men and women of the United States armed forces. Our country has shed more blood for the freedom of other people than all the other countries in the world combined. We are steeped in the tradition of honor and sacrifice for the greater good.

I believe that Americans are once again ready to achieve this greater good, which is nothing less than the security, prosperity and unity of our country.

Former Sen. FRED THOMPSON of Tennessee is seeking the Republican nomination for president.

From the blog Jeremayakovka via Conservative Grapevine

In the early 1980s homosexual savages inspired by 1969 riots at the Stonewall Inn bar made death threats against this influential opponent of gay civil rights, as suggested in over 100 pages of recently released FBI files, according to the Washington Post’s “Investigations” blog:

[Jerry] Falwell’s FBI file contains a 1983 letter sent to his television ministry that concluded with the words, “Hoping you will die soon.” It was accompanied by a small plastic box containing a live scorpion. One threat involved calls to Liberty Baptist College in Lynchburg in 1983, warning that a $10,000 reward had been offered for Falwell’s “assassination” and that it was to be carried out by “gays in Cincinnati.” One caller advised, “I know this is true, because my brother is one of them.” Said another, “I intend to be the one to collect that money.”

No less disturbing than the assassination threats (and attempt, if you count the scorpion) is that WaPo phrases the item and frames the issue by couching in reckless banality both the temptation and the threat to commit murder. The blog entry, called simply, “Exclusive: Jerry Falwell’s FBI File,” begins:

The Rev. Jerry Falwell , founder of the Moral Majority, stirred up passions with his attacks on abortion and homosexuality. Now, the FBI’s confidential file on Falwell, who died in May at age 73, reveals that he also stirred up death threats….[emphases added]

Fortunately such phrasing hints at a way out of its own epistemological impasse. For despite the authority implied by the active form of the verb “to stir up,” only something pre-existing can be set in motion. Which is to say that neither Falwell nor the Devil made those ostensibly “passionate” homosexuals do it. (Granted, the Reverend might have disagreed with my take on the Devil’s role in the matter.) While it’s true that people prone to passion will be found on both sides of any debate, making death threats catapults one into a category beyond the pale of what is acceptable (indeed, of what is possible) as civil discourse. Death threats destroy civil discourse. Like that bullying which taunts and torments another who is perceived to be “different,” death threats against a public personality convey an aggressive contempt for the targeted individual. They also convey a most cowardly disdain because they attempt — always in futility, I might add — to coerce through terror what one shrinks from achieving through debate.

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From the New York Post via the blog What Bubba Knows

Americans won’t see their movies. While the public is staying away in droves from “Rendition,” “Lions for Lambs” and “In the Valley of Elah,” audiences are really avoiding “Redacted,” De Palma’s picture about US soldiers who rape a 14-year-old Iraqi girl, then kill her and her family. The message movie was produced by NBA Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, who insisted on deleting grisly images of Iraqi war casualties from the montage at the film’s end. Cuban offered to sell the film back to De Palma at cost, but the director was too smart to go for that deal.“Redacted” - which “could be the worst movie I’ve ever seen,” said critic Michael Medved -

took in just $25,628 in its opening weekend in 15 theaters, which means roughly 3,000 people saw it in the entire country.

Oh shit, I thought this was a typo!! 

“This, despite an A-list director, a huge wave of publicity, high praise in the Times, The New Yorker, left-leaning sites like Salon, etc. A Joe Strummer documentary [of punk-rock band The Clash] playing in fewer theaters made more in its third week,” e-mailed one cineaste. “Not even people who presumably agree with the movie’s antiwar thesis made the effort to see it.”

Hey Cuban your basketball team SUCKS TOO! LOL!!!!

Post below from the blog - Outside the Beltway.

This was the theme by many at the Blog World conference I attended.
As much as I support Thompson I’d be lying if I said I have not thought the same thing.
As I have said many times I hope this perception changes because I still strongly believe that a Thompson presidency will be in the long run the best for this nation.
I don’t trust a single Democrat; I cringe at a potential Hillary presidency, Edwards is a moron, Obama is all talk, Giuliani is too liberal, although I do believe he would be decent on national defense, but I don’t trust him on illegal immigration issues and he is a ridiculous prima donna career politician reminds me of the GOP version of Bill Clinton, Huckabee is a “former” Baptist minister enough said, Romney is a fraud and will say anything to get elected, McCain is simply “tired” and I don’t trust him on illegal immigration either.

In yet another sign of trouble for his much-hyped candidacy, longtime Fred Thompson backer Steve Bainbridge is stopping just short of withdrawing his endorsement — but only because he still thinks the other alternatives are even worse.His first objection is that, while he likes Thompson’s ideas for tax reforms, he doesn’t think they go far enough. Specifically, he likes Thompson’s simplified tax code but thinks the idea of allowing taxpayers to chose between that code and the existing one is burdensome, in that it would essentially require them to figure their taxes both ways.His chief complaint, however, is with Thompson’s “lackadaisical” campaign style. He cites Michael Medved’s report of a boring interview he conducted with Thompson, wherein the former Senator sounded “disengaged, bored, flaccid and tired.” Medved opines, “Instead of relishing the opportunity to connect with several million listeners, Thompson came across like a guy forced to complete a necessary but onerous chore.”

Which, it seems to me, is a complaint about Thompson himself. Maybe his reputation for being lazy (by presidential aspirant standards, anyway) is deserved? And, if the man is already tired from the rigors of the campaign trail after, oh, six minutes of campaigning, maybe he’s not up for four years as president?

The fact that Bill is just flat out lying about his position on Iraq means Mrs. Bill is in trouble with her wacko left leaning anti-war crowd.
I find it amusing that dude still has not learned about the power of the blogsphere and You Tube. Politicians can’t get away with being a fucken liar because it is so easy to expose the real truth.
This is another issue I will monitor to see if the MSM ignores the facts.

From the blog Don Surber, Daily Mail

Do we really want to bring back this soap opera for 4 more years?

Patrick Healy of the New York Times reported that Bill Clinton is telling people on the campaign trail that he opposed the war in Iraq “from the beginning.”

Of course that’s not the truth.

CNN reported on June 23, 2004:

Former President Clinton has revealed that he continues to support President Bush’s decision to go to war in Iraq but chastised the administration over the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.

“I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over,” Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book “My Life.”

My point is not about Hillary trying to renege on her authorization of this war. My point is merely that under another President Clinton we will get more lies by any administration since Josef Stalin passed away.

Had enough?

The Times story is here. The CNN story is here. Linked by Memeorandum.

UPDATE: Oliver Willis: “As one of President Clinton’s strongest supporters and biggest fans, it pains me to point out that what he’s saying here is a load of bull.”

I did not have military relations with that war, that Iraq…

Bill Clinton Flatly Asserts He Opposed War at Start  —  During a campaign swing for his wife, former President Bill Clinton said flatly yesterday that he opposed the war in Iraq “from the beginning” — a statement that is more absolute than his comments before the invasion in March 2003.

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Bill Clinton 1998 Iraq Liberation Act

Her meeting with Code Pink, in case you forgot, LOL!

In one of the weakest, most ridiculous television journalist pieces I have ever seen was this KCTV 5 Kansas City hit job on former Kansas Attorney General, now Johnson County District Attorney Phil Kline.
Long story short, Phil Kline wants to rid the world of abortion. Kline’s Abortion jihad is an extensive one including going after a Planned Parenthood clinic in Johnson County.
This makes him public enemy number one.

Now I strongly encourage you to watch the piece, but I’ll give you the condensed version.
After a 6 MONTH INVESTIGATION, where this news crew literally had 24 hour surveillance on Kline and his family, what they turned up was 1) he did not clock in and out of his office as much as he should. The station sued, yes sued, to get his building entrance I.D. card records and they found that dude was not in the office as much as he should be, I guess. 2) He does not live in Johnson County, big no, no.
His residence is listed at some shack rented by a couple of rednecks.

Wow, imagine that, an elected official….. well he was appointed by the Republican Party to serve out the remainder of the term once held by the individual who took his job at the Kansas Attorney General’s office, really stupid of the Republican party to do this, but hey the Kansas Republican Party is a damm joke, but that tis another matter.
Back to my point; an elected official who does not live where he says he does, hmmm y’all have never heard of that before, right?
C’mon, in Wichita I remember several elected officials back in the day fudged residences to earn spots on the city council or state representative seats.
This is a common as rain is in Seattle. Is it wrong, yes, should he be booted, shit I don’t know, frankly I don’t give a shit.
Also let me say, I don’t particularly like Kline, his abortion jihad is tiresome, I don’t particularly care for the people he surrounds himself with, he is a one issue politician and an embarrassment and all too symbolic of Kansas Republican Politics. One of the reasons why Kansas has a Democrat governor (I don’t have a problem with her in general) and a Lieutenant Governor, former Republican reject, and I forgot to mention our current AG is a former “moderate” Republican.

But forget all of that, this investigation was solely about Kline’s stance on abortion, nothing more.
I thought when I heard about this “extensive” investigation that they would uncover that Kline was: secretly gay, having an affair, sexually molested a child, was embezzling money from Johnson County, was going to secret KKK meetings, had a gambling problem and was gambling instead of going to work, doing crack, selling weed on the side, chronically masturbating in a park, fighting pit bulls, smuggling in illegals to cut his grass, was visiting his secret Negro lover, something, ANYTHING.

To make this even funnier, is that they first aired this piece on Monday. The ratings were so high because of the buildup they aired it again as a special report last night, preempting the regular news at 10:00 to bleed more ratings out of the story. This was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen, well almost.
All because dude opposed abortion I’m just amazed by just how far the media has sunk and another reason why I don’t watch MSM news.
I wonder as I type this, how much did someone give to KCTV 5 to push this investigation?
Think of the time and money spent scoping out Kline, remember 24 hour surveillance.
The abortion lobby is a powerful one. This is a battle that won’t go away.
The divide of the liberal MSM and the average American is growing wider each day, and this weak ass investigation is a great example of that.
Republicans beware; a camera might be in your future real soon, stay away from the “A” word.

(h/t Scarce)You may know of Phil Kline by his numerous appearances with Bill O’Reilly and his constant attacks on Planned Parenthood. You’d think he would have won his election against Paul Morrison because of all the free publicity, but he got defeated. Anyway, it looks like he’s been caught being a crook and a liar.The KC Blue Blog has more:

KCTV 5 Exclusive 8 month investigation into Johnson County DA Phil Kline has uncovered major news that is likely to force the DA to resign or be removed from office…read on

Here’s more info on Kline….

Found this on the left leaning site: The Brad Blog, Guest blogged Jon Ponder, Pensito Review.When you see liberal blogs posting stuff on right wingers “praying” that he is the GOP nominee, dude must have some serious skeletons in the closet.

Extremist Religious Views Appeal to Christian Nationalists But Will Repel Normal Voters in the General - Dems Should Pray He’s on the TicketRecent polls show that Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas and Baptist preacher, is rising in popularity in Iowa, where he is cutting into Mitt Romney’s lead. (Romney has 28 percent, Huckabee has 24 percent in the ABC news survey; Romney is at 27 percent and Huckabee’s at 18 percent in the local KCCI-TV poll.) He’s also moving up in in Florida, where he’s running second to Rudolph Giuliani, 26 percent to 17 percent — leaving good ol’ boy actor Fred Thompson in fifth place with 9 percent.

With Thompson’s campaign fading, Huckabee becomes the last best hope for the GOP’s Christian nationalist base. Unlike Thompson, Huckabee is authentically one of them. He believes in the inerrancy of the Bible and says he does not believe in evolution. He wants to amend the Constitution to outlaw abortion, and he is the only candidate who has smeared a gay person in the debates, so far.

But Mike Huckabee comes with some serious baggage, and with his rise in the polls comes new scrutiny of his record as governor Arkansas, both in the media and by his opponents, who are quickly finding his record in Little Rock to be what opposition researchers might call a “target-rich environment.”

The scandals associated with the Huckabee administration in Arkansas include:

• A rapist released at Huckabee’s behest who went on to murder his next victim
• Accusations that Huckabee and his family misappropriated tax-payer funds for personal use
• The charge that at the end of his term, Huckabee ordered the destruction of government computers worth over $300,000, apparently to obstruct possible future investigations
• While he was governor, the state of Arkansas raised taxes by hundreds of millions of dollars

Details follow:

Released Rapist Who Murdered His Next Victim

In 1996, Huckabee
made it his cause to release a convicted rapist, Wayne Dumond. Huckabee’s motivation in helping Dumond reveals a serious questions about his judgment. He allowed himself to be deluded by Clinton-haters in the national media into believing that Dumond was innocent but had been railroaded because his victim was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton.

Within six months after Huckabee gave him his freedom, Dumond raped and then murdered a woman in Missouri. And then, as the scandal unfolded, Huckabee lied about his role in Dumond’s release, only to have parole board members and even former staffers came forward to attest to the fact that Dumond would not have been freed without the governor’s intervention.

Read more here

From Moonbattery

Clinton spinner Mark Penn dug himself into a ridiculous hole while trying to discredit a Zogby poll showing the top five Republican candidates all beating Shrillary (video, via NewsBusters).

Penn’s claim that this was the first time Zogby had done an online poll is particularly absurd considering that Penn’s company has been requesting the results of their online polls for years. As Zogby Director of Communications Fritz Wenzel points out:

What is interesting is that no other campaign has made as many requests for Zogby polling data over the years than Penn has made on behalf of Clinton.

There is a line between spinning desperately and telling hysterical lies. Penn plunged across it.

By Thomas Sowell - From Real Clear Politics

People who are in the top one percent in income receive far more than one percent of the attention in the media. Even aside from miscellaneous celebrity bimbos, the top one percent attract all sorts of hand-wringing and finger-pointing.

A recent column by Anna Quindlen in Newsweek (or is that Newsweak?) laments that “the share of the nation’s income going to the top 1 percent is at its highest level since 1928.”

Who are those top one percent? For those who would like to join them, the question is: How can you do that?

The second question is easy to answer. Virtually anyone who owns a home in San Francisco, no matter how modest that person’s income may be, can join the top one percent instantly just by selling their house.

But that’s only good for one year, you may say. What if they don’t have another house to sell next year?

Well, they won’t be in the top one percent again next year, will they? But that’s not unusual.

Americans in the top one percent, like Americans in most income brackets, are not there permanently, despite being talked about and written about as if they are an enduring “class” — especially by those who have overdosed on the magic formula of “race, class and gender,” which has replaced thought in many intellectual circles.

At the highest income levels, people are especially likely to be transient at that level. Recent data from the Internal Revenue Service show that more than half the people who were in the top one percent in 1996 were no longer there in 2005.

Among the top one-hundredth of one percent, three-quarters of them were no longer there at the end of the decade.

These are not permanent classes but mostly people at current income levels reached by spikes in income that don’t last.

These income spikes can occur for all sorts of reasons. In addition to selling homes in inflated housing markets like San Francisco, people can get sudden increases in income from inheritances, or from a gamble that pays off, whether in the stock market, the real estate market, or Las Vegas.

Some people’s income in a particular year may be several times what it has ever been before or will ever be again.

Among corporate CEOs, those who cash in stock options that they have accumulated over the years get a big spike in income the year that they cash them in. This lets critics quote inflated incomes of the top-paid CEOs for that year. Some of these incomes are almost as large as those of big-time entertainers — who are never accused of “greed,” by the way.

Just as there may be spikes in income in a given year, so there are troughs in income, which can be just as misleading in the hands of those who are ready to grab a statistic and run with it.

Many people who are genuinely affluent, or even rich, can have business losses or an off year in their profession, so that their income in a given year may be very low, or even negative, without their being poor in any meaningful sense.

This may help explain such things as hundreds of thousands of people with incomes below $20,000 a year living in homes that cost $300,000 and up. Many low-income people also have swimming pools or other luxuries that they could not afford if their incomes were permanently at their current level.

There is no reason for people to give up such luxuries because of a bad year, when they have been making a lot more money in previous years and can expect to be making a lot more money in future years.

Most Americans in the top fifth, the bottom fifth, or any of the fifths in between, do not stay there for a whole decade, much less for life. And most certainly do not remain permanently in the top one percent or the top one-hundredth of one percent.

Most income statistics do not follow given individuals from year to year, the way Internal Revenue statistics do. But those other statistics can create the misleading illusion that they do by comparing income brackets from year to year, even though people are moving in and out of those brackets all the time.

That especially includes the top one percent, who have become the focus of so much angst and so much rhetoric.

I think more and more of these kids today need a good ass beating. Have you been to a Walmart recently?
These kids today are a bunch of whining, smart ass, rude little bastards.
However I do acknowledge that the problem is not “to spank or not to spank”, the problem is too many retards are having children and continue to breed and they had no stable home environment and have no idea how to raise a kid in a stable environment themselves.
Too many people regard their kids being mouthy, bad ignorant little brats “cute,” so they parent with blinders on, while the rest of us have to suffer trying to ignore these little tyrants as they grow up to be adult tyrants.

Will the nanny statism never stop? A nurse in Arlington Mass. asked State Rep. Jay Kaufman to file the spanking ban petition in an attempt to get Mass. to be the first state in the country to ban corporal punishment.I can only ask what the h**l… (FUCK I added that) is wrong with these people? There was a time when an unruly child got paddled when they misbehaved.

 Over the last couple of decades that has been set aside in favor of “time outs” and other such “punishments” that don’t really work. What do we have to show for it? Unruly children terrorizing teachers across the land, falling test scores and disrespectful children.

The ever encroaching nanny state is working slowly but surely on taking away all parental rights. You don’t have the right to know when your children leave school grounds to get “medical care” (i.e. birth control or an abortion), which is going to get kids, once they realize the benefits of this law, to be able to ditch classes, legally, simply by stating that they are going to the doctors office. Now they want to take away the parents right to discipline their children as they see fit.

Now I am not advocating abuse here, but sometimes a kid just needs a good whack on the bottom to set them back in line. Never mind that we are creating a generation of super wimps, who will be unable to deal with the harsh realities of the real world when they graduate.

We see that happening with kids that expect to be hired just because they applied for a job,

In short Boston is wrong on this issue. All they are going to do create even more unruly children who will grow ever bolder and only be reigned in once they snap and get hauled in by cops with tasers.

Somebody needs to spank that nurse.

Found this on the blog Sweetness & Light

From the Canadian Free Press:  

You’d never read this in the mainstream media:  The owner of MS Explorer that sank, leaving a huge carbon footprint at the bottom of the Antarctic Ocean Friday is an acolyte of teensy-weensy carbon footprint crusader Al Gore.G.A.P.

Adventures CEO and Explorer owner, Bruce Poon Tip [sic] and Gore have similar ideals, “filling their schedules with speaking engagements on environmental change to educate global audiences.” And that’s straight off of www.gapadventures.com.  In fact, as recently as last April, both Poon Tip and Gore gave presentations at the Green Living Show in Toronto.

“I expressed my admiration for Mr. Gore’s commitment and leadership which spans more than 20 years,” commented Poon Tip.  “I also invited him aboard our legendary polar expedition ship, the MS Explorer to visit the Arctic.”

The legendary polar expedition ship…”had at least five faults at its last inspection,” according to Greenpeace spokeswoman Bunny McDiarmid.  “Maritime records show the MV Explorer has completed more than 40 cruises to the ice, but has lately been suffering maintenance and safety problems.”

Maintenance and safety problems never kept the MS Explorer from setting out for the Antarctica two weeks ago…

There was little mention in the mainstream media that the passengers were comprised of eco warriors or that they had spent thousands of dollars to see ice at a much closer range than they ever dreamed…

The 38-year-old vessel was sold by Abercrombie & Kent (A&K) to G.A.P Adventures in 2004. A&K has since acquired Explorer II, now called “Minerva”…

Meanwhile, Greenpeace believes tourism in Antarctica should be strictly limited because of the fate of MS Explorer, but the silence is deafening from Poon Tip and Gore about the huge carbon footprint left on the ocean floor.

Read the rest

A portion of the Peggy Noonan article mentioned…

I was talking with an old friend, a longtime Democrat, and she asked if I knew what religion a certain presidential candidate was. I replied that I didn’t know and hoped I’d never find out. We started to laugh, and she nodded.

I didn’t mean it and yet I meant it, for we have come to an odd pass regarding candidates and their faith. It’s not as if faith is unimportant, it’s always important. But we are asking our political figures–mere flawed politicians–to put forward and talk about their faith to a degree that has become odd. We push them against the wall and do a kind of theological frisk on them. We didn’t use to.

Forty years ago, a firm-jawed, silver-haired Michigan governor made a serious bid for the presidency. He was well-funded, well-credentialed, and was done in by one of those campaign gaffes in which a throwaway line becomes a death knell. He had changed his position on Vietnam, and in explaining his previous support said he’d been “brainwashed” on the issue. Americans don’t like their presidents to be people who’d allow their brains to be sent to the dry cleaners. Republicans in particular were not amused. So he was over.

His name was George Romney. He was Mitt’s father. And no one back in those narrow-minded, benighted days seems to have cared that much that he was a Mormon.

Now it’s an issue. Now we debate the candidate’s faith.

This is change. Is it progress?

It doesn’t feel like it.

In 1968 we were, as now, a religious country. But when we walked to the polls, we thought we were about to hire a president, not a Bible study teacher.

No one cared, really, that Richard Nixon was a Quaker. They may have been confused by it, but they weren’t upset. His vice president, Spiro Agnew, was not Greek Orthodox but Episcopalian. Nobody much noticed. Nelson Rockefeller of New York was not an Episcopalian but a Baptist. Do you know what Lyndon Johnson’s religion was? He was a member of the Disciples of Christ, but in what appeared to be the same way he was a member of the American Legion: You’re in politics, you join things. Hubert Humphrey was born Lutheran, attended Methodist churches, and was rumored to be a Congregationalist. This didn’t quite reach the level of mystery because nobody quite cared.

Read the rest here: People Before Prophets

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