Can a Mormon be president? Is this a trick question?

Since the comments made by Sharpton abut Mitt Romney is all over the airwaves, I though I would recycle another old post that I put up when Mitt first announced his presidency bid.
Nobody dislikes Sharpton any more than I do, but him mentioning the racist past of Mormons is legit, and anybody who either wants to sweep it under the rug or ignore the racist past of Mormons is frankly full of shit!

mormon1.jpgSince Mitt is launching his presidential campaign I though I would recycle this post from last summer by Cal Thomas.
I know some folks will say “damm Snoop give dude a break, Mormons are not the evil people you portray them to be, times have changed”
Oh man I could not event type that with a straight face… 
After the article I have some racist examples that I know most Mormons still believe in. No individual can be president when the religion he practices entire history has doctrine supporting racist sentiments. If you’re a fucken racist you don’t just snap your fingers and your racist beliefs just fade away.

There are still 70-something plus white people that still believe schools should be separated by race, that racial housing covenants are a good thing, that interracial marriage is wrong and blacks need to go back to Africa…hell there are 20 something white people that think that way… anywho…
Besides after the South Park Episode I will never be able to take Mormons seriously again. I rank them right up there with Scientologists.  

By Cal Thomas

Consider the following scenario: four candidates are running for president in 2008. One is a pro-choice Protestant who believes in balanced budgets and would cut spending and lower taxes, but is divorced and remarried to someone who has also been divorced. The second candidate is a Catholic, who is pro-life, but who believes in tax increases and more government spending to help the poor. This candidate is married, but during the ’60s he smoked dope and lived in an ashram with two women. The third is Jewish and supports the Iraq war and Israel against those who wish to destroy it, is married to a gentile and thinks same-sex marriage is OK. The fourth candidate is a Mormon, who is married to the same woman he started out with, is pro-life, opposes same-sex marriage, wants taxes and government spending cut, would put more conservatives on the Supreme Court and appears consistent in his private and public behavior.
According to a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll, if you are a conservative Christian voter, you are more likely to vote for the Protestant, Catholic or Jewish candidate before you would vote for the Mormon, though he is more in line with your political philosophy.
The poll found that while anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism are fading among voters, anti-Mormonism is not. Thirty-seven percent of those questioned said they would not vote for a Mormon presidential candidate. Article VI of the U.S. Constitution forbids a “religious test” for those wishing to serve in public office, but it can do nothing about voters who wish to apply a religious test to candidates.

The impetus for the poll appears to be the likely presidential candidacy of Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who is a Mormon.

I am reminded of a comedy bit by the late Steve Allen. Allen would take a camera and microphone into the street and ask people, “Could you ever vote for an openly heterosexual person for president?” The shocked interviewee would fervently respond, “Oh, no, I could never do that.” It was funny, but it also said something about the ignorance of the individual being quizzed.     If Romney runs, he might consider following the example of another son of Massachusetts, John F. Kennedy, who addressed the issue of his Catholicism in a speech to the Houston Ministerial Association during the 1960 campaign. Kennedy said: “I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the president — should he be Catholic — how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.”


In a telephone interview, Governor Romney tells me he doesn’t believe religion is a factor “when people know the real individual.” Asked whether he might follow Kennedy’s example and make a speech about church and state, Romney says, “There may well be a time when something is said by me or something happens that crystallizes the issue for people, but I believe the people in this country subscribe to the Lincoln view that when people take the oath of office they abide by America’s political religion and that they place the Constitution and the rule of law first.”
The poll results may reflect attitudes toward Mormonism that are similar to what non-Catholic voters thought about Catholics four decades ago. Some may get their impressions of Mormonism from the HBO series “Big Love,” about a modern polygamist and his three wives (the church banned polygamy in 1890 as a condition for Utah’s admission to the Union, which took place in 1896.)
If an ambulance hits me, I care less where or how the driver worships than I do about his sense of direction to the nearest hospital. It troubles me not that a Mormon might be president. It does trouble me a great deal that so many people would think a person’s faith — whether one shares it or not — should be the only reason to deny someone the presidency. Perhaps if Romney decides to run it won’t matter too much of that 37 percent, anymore than it eventually did during the 1960 campaign when the issue was Catholicism.

Ok lets not forget what was said before……….

Mormons, who at that time made no pretence at their white supremacist doctrine. On August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

“The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after.

He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn’t just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn’t that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage.

That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, ‘First we pity, then endure, then embrace’….”

Then in 1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson, blinded by his acutely myopic view of African Americans and caught up in the communist hysteria of the times, saw the civil rights movement as nothing more than weak, useless blacks being used for a sinister purpose.

He said, “The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder.”

Oh and this: Chief ‘Prophet’ Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

“The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man’s origin, it is the Lord’s doings.” (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).

FROM MY HOMIE BRIGHAM YOUNG
Journal of Discourses

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African Race? If the White man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.               

Cain slew his brother. . . and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin.

You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind. The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race–that they should be the “servant of servants;” and they will be, until that curse is removed.

So us black folks are just suppose to ignore that shit. Ya think Mormons today would simply say, ah ignore that we don’t believe that anymore… who are you fucken kidding!?

 In case you did not know….

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    • Smith taught that the Garden of Eden was on the American continent, and near the present Independence, Missouri, and Spring Hill, Missouri and that the biblical Adam built an altar there. The remains of the Adam’s altar and a tower were found by the Mormons in 1838 in that area in Missouri.
    • Having found the Garden of Eden, Smith taught that Independence, Missouri would be the location of the coming Kingdom of God, called Zion, and prophecied in 1832 that the Church will build a Mormon Temple there for the Lord to return on the second coming. This temple was prophesied to be built soon by Smith saying “which temple shall be reared in this generation. For verily this generation shall not all pass away.”

    and more FYI
    1 Nephi 12:23 And it came to pass that I beheld, after they had dwindled in unbelief they became a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations. (Joe Smith calls dark skinned people ugly, filthy, lazy, and perverts.)

    Mormon 5:15 And also that the seed of this people may more fully believe his gospel, which shall go forth unto them from the Gentiles; for this people shall be scattered, and shall become a dark, a filthy, and a loathsome people, beyond the description of that which ever hath been amongst us, yea, even that which hath been among the Lamanites, and this because of their unbelief and idolatry.

    1 Nephi 13:15 And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.

    2 Nephi 5:21 For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.

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    6 Responses to “Can a Mormon be president? Is this a trick question?”

    1. mitzibel Says:

      “*dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb*”

    2. Snoop Says:

      PRESIDENT MY BLACK ASS!!

    3. Nibbles Says:

      lol. I just randomly stumbled upon this while searching for a statistic.

      A wonderfully sensationalistic post.

      Among other things, you forget that one of the reasons the mormons were so hated was BECAUSE of abolition. They were abolitionists, and harrassed and killed because of it.

      The writings of bruce r mcconkie have nothing to do with church doctrine, or belief, and he was severely chastised for his bigotted statements. Ezra Taft Benson was referring to something that had nothing to do with race, but the socialistic/communistic agenda of martin luther king and friends. Take a look at his real history. His communist ties are irrefuteable.

      Anything found in the journal of the discourses, is NOT doctrine, and is compiled from various notes and manuscripts from different sources.

      Blacks were not able to hold the priesthood in the church for a period of time, for a whole different set of reasons none of which dealt directly with racism in the sense that the media throws the term around.

      The quotations from the book of mormon you listed have -nothing-, I repeat -nothing- to do with race or skin color, and never have. You are obviously ignorant of the traditional hebrew symbolic speech along those lines. Where fair, and white is equated with clean, and dark and black was equated with dirt and corruption. Having NOTHING to do with race.

      You’re perpetuating the same sensational misinformation and lies which led to the slaughter of mormons in the 1800’s. Now, you’re just attacking from the other side of the argument.

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    5. Wendy Says:

      Thanks - every now and again I wonder if I did the right thing escaping mormonism - so I google mormon and find great comments like yours…

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