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Obviously we don’t want Walmart or it would have gone up already. Who wants Walmart around when they are obviously trying to screw us. Disgusting.

Don’t ya just love when moronic people claim to speak for you

I dislike Lawrence as it is. I shop less & less in Lawrence every month (because of my location) & once Douglas Co. closes the Lecompton bridge in April (for 5+ months)I see myself in Lawrence even less. Even though it will bring more jobs Walmart should let it go & spend the money on a building in North Topeka. Oh wait my bad I think they already are! I guess my money will be going to my local grocer & Topeka for bigger purchases. Come to think of it I’ll even save on gas too.

Then take yo ass back to Topeka! 

I feel the same way, Redneckwoman. I am so disgusted with Lawrence that I stopped shopping there. I am now buying all my stuff in Topeka because I don’t want Lawrence to get any of my money and I have found the prices to be MUCH cheaper. I am saving gas money as well. The Lecompton bridge closing was the clincher but these fights to stop free economy just sickens me. Lawrence was a wonderful city when I lived there 15 years ago and it has gone downhill quickly since. (or maybe my eyes have finally been opened.)

Good lets weed out the liberal gene pool

If WalMart goes up, I will seriously rethink my residency here.

Don’t let the doorknob hit ya stupid ass…well you know.

Marion, S.T.F.U, I think everyone is tired of your rambling. I think WalMart should put a supersized pawn & crook shop in thier store. That way Marion can get away for the news for a while and experience the wonder that is WalMart, minimum wage part-time no healthinsurance overtime shortpaying goodness. P.S. They also hire immigrants for late night cleanup and stocking work for less than $4hr. If you buy from WalMart you unanimously support thier money leeching corporate criminalism, and you have no respect for your neighbors or thier jobs.

NO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP, WE ARE ALL TIRED OF YOUR RAMBLING!

These people bitching about and issue they really don’t give a shit about because if they did they would have engaged themselves in the planning process right from the start.
You see, I’ve been there and done that.
I worked with neighborhood associations and developers in plaining the right design and community framework to get the best outcome for all involved.
Not just on big box store issues but planning issues from roads, infrastructure, schools, planing and zoning and not for profit issues.

So it’s is off the charts silly for people to get on the Journal World site and spends hours banging on a keyboard bitching about something they could have involved themselves in from the start, but they were too fucken busy then, but now you have time to blow by posting a bunch of tired rhetoric?
 
I posted a small portion of the bitching and complaining first to just show you the type of crap idiots will say not grasping the fact that most of us just don’t give a shit about what they said,
all in the name of being heard,  just to try and make people believe that they know what the fuck they are talking about, to try and be relevant.
 
The same old tired “Walmart bad” bullshit that every community across the country has been ranting about for years.
The post below is written by someone who has sane insight and has tried to get her point across.
I invited her to post here just so she can let off some steam.

I said to her why bother?
The Lawrence city commissioners are a bunch of fucken dolts who would rather waste taxpayers money fighting a lawsuit they can’t win rather than work with Walmart on a solution that would be good for all.
But they are caught up by these hypocritical liberal skanks and their mental masturbation rants of evil corporate greed. So they have to kiss some political ass.
When you know the minute this new store opens (and it will open eventually) they will take their tired asses right into the store to pick up the latest sale item and usual good deal Walmart provides.

What Lady G provides are the basic facts, not all of this “if Walmart opens, I’ll move” or “I’ll take my money elsewhere!” bullshit.

When I read shit like that I wonder, do you really think I give a fuck you stupid bastards where you shop or spend your money, or who you will give your next blowjob to?
I mean seriously.
Do you mutherfuckers who get on these sites actually think that when you post multiple simplistic and meaningless rants about shit that nobody cares about that people care what you have to say, particularly after you have said it multiple times!?

How many fucken times and ways can you anti Walmart dolts say “Walmart is bad”?
What they pay and the benefits they provide are the business of the people who apply there, are none of your fucken business.

In addition If you have a small business and Walmart hurts your business you either have to reinvent yourself or pack yo shit up.
I want to keep as much money in my fucken pocket as I can and if Walmart will sell me laundry soap for 3 fucken dollars less that you will, who the fuck do you think I’m going to buy from.    

These city council member are members of or part owners of, or friends of people who invest in this local mercantile market, which is a fucken ripoff.
They sell a bunch or “organic” shit but everything is priced 20 percent higher.
It’s all about the money, even for liberals. But they just want to hide behind the “corporate greed is evil tag”, that means “they care.”

Anywho…the post…
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By Lady Guinivere - Guest Writer

The people in Lawrence are having a melt down, as they divide into two camps: The I hate Walmart (at least one on the west side of town) and the we love Wallmart. They applaud or attack the current city council as it waffle dances back and forth. The two citizen camps post hundreds of comments on both sides. Bad Walmart. Good Walmart. And they are all missing the boat. This is a done deal, legally. No matter what you think of the issue, the legalities entirely favor Walmart.

A little history.

The prior city council approved this new mega-store to be built near the new highschool (free state). Never mind whether they should have done so, they did. Then, a new batch of city commissioners were elected (perhaps in reaction to that approval). Sure enough, the newly elected “hippy” majority yanked approval. A law suit by Walmart developers quickly followed. On the very day that the matter was to go to court, a settlement was reached. Wallmart would be allowed to build, just not the mega-store. But that wasn’t the end of the story. The most recent move in the city leader’s waffle dance was the council’s 2^nd change of heart and mind. They’ve backed off their settlement agreement. So Wallmart has taken the city back into court, this time demanding the whole enchilada (they‘re back to wanting the giant store). And if this matter actually goes to a judge, they will get exactly what they original council approved; the big mega-store. Like or hate Wallmart, at all or just in this location, the original council’s approval sealed the outcome.

It’s called Vested Property Rights people. Look up that phrase on www.google.com or something. In summary, it means that once the government has recognized your rights or given you something of value, it’s yours forever (or until you decide to give it up). The government can no longer deny it to you, unless they take it for public use, and then they have to pay you “just compensation” (what it is worth on the market).

For example, say you needed to get a building permit to put in a new side walk on your property. So you go down to the city and ask for permission. They work out the details with you, but eventually say “yes” and you proceed to hire the contractors, buy the equipment and things necessary to proceed, and get ready to start pouring cement. But then the city says “we changed our minds.” Not only would that be unfair, it happens to violate the Constitution. The government can prohibit and restrict uses of private property, prospectively. In the future. The government cannot retroactively take away your property, or your right to do something legal with it, simply because they change their mind about a specific use.

Sure it can get more complicated then that. For example, the government can take away property without paying for it by making it illegal to have certain property. For example, they can outlaw private ownership of some types of drugs or guns. And they can legally do things that diminish your use of property. For example they can outlaw prostitution, making illegal your historic use of your home as a brothel; but you can still use it for some other kind of legal business. But that is not what is going on in Lawrence. What we have, in a nut shell, are some city council members who are acting like spoiled children. They don’t like Wallmart and no one can make them. Nanny nanny poo.

The good people of Lawrence who threaten to move if they don’t get their way on this Walmart fight are really missing the point. The old city commission’s approval made this a done deal. That decision sealed the legal right to build. Period. Anything that came afterwards - any new restrictions imposed by the new commissioners - is simply stalling. And it’s pretty expensive stalling. Because the longer these commissioners make Walmart delay opening the new store, the more they miss out on resulting sales, and the higher the eventual damage award given by a court to Walmart.

If the city council and its supporters think this mind-changing tactic is going to force Wallmart to eventually fold up their tents and go away, they haven’t read up on the strategies of this giant corporation. They didn’t get where they are today being wimps about a legal fight. And they have more money then the city to waste. They will win all that money back, from the city tax payers. We will have a Walmart at that site, in the end, unless they are convinced there is no money to be made.

And that’s the real way to decide if there should be any store. The people who argue this is and isn’t a good idea still have a “vote”. They can vote with their dollars. Once this Walmart gets built (and I have no doubt it will) they can shop there are not shop there. If the Walmart doesn’t make a profit, you can bet it will fold or be scaled back. If it does make a profit, then the majority of shoppers aren’t bothered by the tactics it uses, the wages it pays, or the source of its cheap products (think of those poor starving Chinese orphans).

Meanwhile, the current Lawrence commissioners who backed out on their settlement have cost the tax payers even more money. Someone should make an open record request to find out the amount of city money spent, thus far, to pay the lawyers trying to fight this Walmart. I bet we could have done something great with all that money….maybe even fed a lot of starving Chinese orphans.

This entry was posted on Sunday, October 29th, 2006 at 10:05 am and is filed under Liberal Education, Angry Liberals, Liberal hypocrisy, Evil Business Profiteers, Are you serious?, Walmart is evil, so what!.
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